i call grover norquist, what is going on here? he said read between the lin lines. only when democrats put up their end of the bargain they would negotiate. if they do, they can change the rate and close a loophole and they will violate a no norquist pledge. should they? violate the pledge they won on and run on and may change the tune. >> dana: i never liked pledges about anything. i think when you get elec elected -- right. pledge of allegiance was great. do it every day at school. only pledge is i pledge to uphold the constitution. pledge to make good decisions. if republicans get to a deal where rate goes up less than if the push tax cuts expire, then have you violated the pledge? this is getting -- >> eric: i said don't agree to higher taxes. how do you get away to ask them to sign that. when you might need it. >> bob: who the hell snore let me just tell you. he has 280 people signing -- he is not an elected official. pressure by this is phenomenal. he is right. stop this. >> bob: what does norquist do with anything? you said he isn't elect official. he is a bl